The following comments are in response to Terrorising Pakistan: part 2
A guest post by Asif Haroon Raja again published in Reality and Illusions on 27th July 2010
(Author's Note: The Pakis both in Pakistan and outside are quite enamoured by poverty in India, ignorant of their own poverty and lack of development and the film Slumdog Millionaire, which is referred to in the comments below. They have turned a blind eye to the problems within their own country while falsely accusing India of machinations. Pakis both within and without must realise that their country faces an existential threat, largely due to the faulty policies adopted by their military leaders, the de facto rulers of Pakistan).
Anonymous said...
Travel to India, please... it will open your eyes.
You may eventually understand why the rest of the world will not even waste its spit on the failed state of Porkistan....
July 30, 2010 2:22 AM
Sakib Ahmad said...
Good idea this - to travel to India. People numbering several times the population of Pakistan living in abject poverty aren't exactly an impressive advertisement for India, are they?
I recommend that you see the film Slumdog Millionaire at your earliest opportunity - it will act as a rude eye opener for you.
Pakistan today bears no resemblance to the vision of Jinnah. Many sincere Pakistanis are striving to bring about change - only time will tell whether they fail or succeed. I hope to present the vision of the Quaid in his own words soon.
July 31, 2010 12:29 AM
MoinSaddiq said...
Dear Sakib Bhai,
One of my cousins was abducted by Pakistan intelligence service and has not returned since then.
Was the plance crash at Margalla Hills, corruption by Ganja, AAZ, and the floods in AJK and Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa all created by Mossad/RAW/CIA ?
We are being punished by Allah for our sins of encouraging terror and killing people in the name of Islam.
July 31, 2010 7:57 AM
Sakib Ahmad said...
Dear Moin,
I am sorry to learn of the tragic disappearance of your cousin. There are thousands of others like him. In the preceding blog post there was a comment by Rehman, whose family has been hounded by Pakistan's secret agencies - you can read more at 'theterrorland' blog (just click on Rehman's name).
The Supreme Court seems powerless against the might of these agencies. In the circumstances, we can certainly protest individually but collective action will be more productive. I wonder if there is a way to write to General Kayani with thousands of signatures and ask him to order the agencies to either release the people they have abducted or try them in a Pakistani court. What the agencies are doing is quite simply unlawful.
Allah is certainly just. He has created a universe with unchanging laws. I agree with you that we have violated those laws and we are suffering the consequences. The solution is to bring about an inner revolution in ourselves and in our society.
Afraad ke haatho.n mein hai aqvaam ki taqdeer
Har fard hai millat ke muqaddar ka sitaara
Additionally, we also need to be aware of the nefarious activities of our enemies. It is in this context that we need to be on our guard against the USA-India-Israel nexus.
August 1, 2010 12:11 AM
Pakistan's Nemesis said...
The Blogger is free to delete any comment of mine. I don't give a damn if he introduced "moderation comment policy". If the Blogger continues to dish out half-baked nonsense, he must be ready to accept some not so-civilised language from readers. The Blogger is free to delete this comment as well.
India may have poverty and several social ills. At least it has a democracy which is functioning. No clergy and fatwas like Pakistan. No lawlessness like Pakistan. The Indian military plays the role of a sentinel, not a ruler as in Pakistan. Economically and industrially, it is far more advanced than Pak. It does not have to take a begging bowel to the US and back stab it in the form of support to terrorists like Al Qaeda and Taliban.
Bloggers sitting in the safety of England can afford to write propaganda pieces highlighting Pak’s so-called achievements and its “sincerity” in tackling terror. Please take a look at the British PM’s remarks indicting Pak. Moin’s case is one in a million probably which shows the true colors of Pak and its agencies, civilian and military. Pointing fingers at Hindu RAW for Pak ills hardly appear convincing.
August 1, 2010 7:51 AM
Sakib Ahmad said...
Ah! My good friend from across the border comes with another of his gems!
Dear me, David Cameron was too eager to confirm the truth underlying George Bernard Shaw's famous remark about the English being a nation of shopkeepers. He was quite simply disgusting - there is no other word. One Indian commentator crowed that the British once called India the jewel in the British crown but, judging from Cameron's comments, their ambition now seems to be to become the brightest jewel in India's crown!
I wonder when our visitor will cast aside his prejudices and learn to make comments on the basis of truth and justice. An excellent article, which presents the truth about Kashmir in a nutshell, can be read here:
http://thepeopleofpakistan.wordpress.com/2010/08/02/kashmir-–-the-dispute-that-continues-to-rock-south-asia/
Final word: just avoid abusive terms and your posts are safe from deletion!
August 4, 2010 6:46 AM
Pakistan's Nemesis said...
The truth, Mr. Blogger is something you guys whether residing in the terrorist state or outside of it do not wish to see. Pak's duplicity cannot be hidden behind a "veil" like faces. Wikileaks just lifted or should we say pierced the veil for the world to see. People like Moin above are the unfortunate victims of ISI, not RAW. I wish RAW had the means to destroy the terrorist infrastructure erected by Pak over the years.
Instead of harping about casting aside my prejudice, the Blogger ought to see what is the world opinion about Pak. There is unanimity that Pak is the epicenter of terrorism. Kashmir, Mr. Blogger, is a ruse to foment terrorism in India. Nobody in his proper frame of mind believes that resolving the K issue is going to herald an era of everlasting peace. There are enough terrorists in Pak military and outside of it who will come up with other issues to rock this region. Finally, whether you like it or not why is it that fundamentalists belonging to your religion create problem world-wide - from Philippines in the East to Africa and beyond? Are there no sane voices of moderation? You and your breathren need to sit down and reflect, before dishing out distortions in the name of facts and analysis.
Again, Mr. Blogger is free to delete my comments. A deletion reflects more about the Blogger's intolerance than about my opinion or choice of words.
August 4, 2010 7:21 AM
Pakistan's Nemesis said...
Readers of this blog can read the comments posted by me here on my blog -http://pakistansnemesis.blogspot.com/2010/08/impressions.html
August 4, 2010 11:41 AM
Lost-in-cyberspace said...
I am amazed at this man's determination to turn himself into a pariah at this blog. I more amazed at the patience you show in dealing with him.
August 5, 2010 12:43 PM
Pakistan's Nemesis said...
@ Lost-in-cyberspace (probably forever)
It is Pak which is a pariah today. It is patience of the international community in dealing with Pak that is running out. And that is the most amazing thing. The Blogger at least shows some civility which is missing amongst most of your fellow country-men.
August 5, 2010 1:45 PM
MoinSaddiq said...
Pakistan has become a main sponsor of terrorism and it is Allah which is telling us to change course
August 15, 2010 5:36 AM
Sakib Ahmad said...
Dear Moin,
Pakistan's government and its army are not just supporters, they actually participate in acts of terrorism. Allah asks us in the Qur'an to resist and fight the oppressors. We need to clean up our government and our army and live as free and proud individuals who uphold human values as abundantly explained in the Qur'an.
We need to free ourselves from subjugation to home-grown tyrants as well as their foreign masters, who keep them in power because they serve them so well.
August 16, 2010 10:11 PM
MoinSaddiq said...
Very rightly said Sakib, but at the same time Pakistan army MUST maintain vigil on eastern enemy
August 21, 2010 4:38 PM
Sakib Ahmad said...
Indeed! Pakistan's army is ours for all its faults. We must support it and, at the same time, clean it up.
Our internal divisions will simply play into the hands of the lurking presence across the eastern border, and the suffocating presence of Uncle Sam who already controls the hands holding the reins of power in Pakistan.
August 24, 2010 8:19 AM
Pakistan's Nemesis said...
What has the Paki Army done since the last sixty odd years except maintaining vigil and fomenting trouble along the Eastern border. While Pakistan's Western borders are literally chaotic, the focus of the Pakis continues to be on the Eastern borders. Absolutely moronic.
August 27, 2010 7:26 AM
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